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A secondary citation, also known as an indirect citation, is when you are referring to content that you haven't read directly but found mentioned in another author's work.
When citing a secondary source
Smith (2022, as cited in Brown, 2009) noted that ….
(Smith, 2022, as cited in Brown, 2009)
If you can’t find the year of the primary (original) source, you can leave the year out:
Davis (as cited in Miller, 1999)
(Davis, as cited in Miller, 1999)
The APA Guide has more information on this under the ‘What if. . . ?’ tab.
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In APA, you don't cite live speeches, you cite the work that contains the speech (or the transcript). So if you found the transcript on a webpage, and you know who wrote the speech (and you know it wasn't the person who delivered the speech), you would cite it as a web page, but use the speech writer as your author. You may include [Speech written for That Person] after the title of the speech, if you feel it needs clarification.
For example:
Smith, J. (2019). This is just where we came in [Speech written for Harry Brown]. Retrieved from http://www.harrybrownspeaks.com
In text, you would write something like this:
In a speech delivered by Harry Brown it was suggested that we are all responsible for fixing problems even if we were not responsible for creating them (Smith, 2019).
Similary, if you found the speach on YouTube, you would cite the YouTube clip as per normal and use your text to clarify who was speaking and/or who the speech writer was.
Actual live speeches are treated as personal communication, if your only source was attending the speech yourself.
However, this is only true when the person who is being quoted was *cited* by the work that you have in front of you. That is, Brown published a work which was cited by Smith, and you are citing Brown as cited by Smith. If you are citing an interview (as in, Smith spoke to Brown, and you are referring to something Brown said to Smith) then you would simply make it clear who is speaking, and cite the work as normal, as this is not a secondary citation but original work/research by the author.
For example:
Harry Brown pointed out that this has caused confusion in the past (Smith, 2018).